பேச்சு:திராவிடர்

The article should be completely re written and the reference cited is not credible, in my opinion--ரவி 15:33, 1 மே 2006 (UTC)

இந்த தலைப்பை திருவிடர் என்ற தலைப்புக்கு வழிமாற்ற பரிந்துரைக்கிறேன். --இராஜ்குமார் 05:45, 21 செப்டெம்பர் 2011 (UTC)

திராவிடர்” என்பதே பொதுப்பயன்பாட்டில் உள்ளதால், “திருவிடர்” என்பதை வழிமாற்றாகக் கொள்ளலாம்--சோடாபாட்டில்^{உரையாடுக} 05:47, 21 செப்டெம்பர் 2011 (UTC)

இந்தக் கட்டுரையில் "சொல்லின் தோற்றம்" என்ற உப தலைப்பில் திராவிட என்ற சமஸ்கிருதச் சொல் மருவி தமிழ் என ஆனதெனச் சிலரும், தமிழ் என்ற சொல் மருவி திராவிட என்ற சமஸ்கிருத சொல் ஆனது எனவும் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது. எப்படிப் பார்த்தாலும் திராவிட என்பது சமஸ்கிருதச் சொல் என்றே முடிவாகிறது.

திருவிடர் என்ற சொல்லின் மூலம் எது? அல்லது அச்சொல் எந்த இலக்கண/இலக்கிய நூலில் வருகிறது என்பதைத் தயவுசெய்து தெளிவு படுத்தவும்--UKSharma3 13:38, 11 மார்ச் 2017 (UTC)

Additions (recent researches)

Hello, I wanted to ask if someone can translate and include these informations:

Carleton S. Coon, in his book The Races of Europe (1939), classified the Dravidians as Caucasoid due to their "Caucasoid skull structure" and other physical traits such as noses, eyes and hair.

According to a large craniometric study (Raghavan and Bulbeck et al. 2013) the native populations of South Asia (India and Sri Lanka) have distinct craniometric and anthropologic ancestry. Both southern and northern groups are most similar to each other and have generally closer affinities to various "Caucasoid" groups. The study further showed that the native South Asians (including the Vedda) form a distinct group and are not related to the "Australoid" group.

If there were an Australoid “substratum” component to Indians’ ancestry, we would expect some degree of craniometric similarity between Howells’ Southwest Pacific series and Indians. But in fact, the Southwest Pacific and Indian are craniometrically very distinct, falsifying any claim for an Australoid substratum in India.

— Pathmanathan Raghavan, David Bulbeck, Gayathiri Pathmanathan and Suresh Kanta Rathee, Indian Craniometric Variability and Affinities (2013)

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New studies 2019

Recent studies (2019) about the population history of India found strong evidence that Dravidians were the native population of northern India, Pakistan and eastern Iran. The population of the Indus Valley culture was of predominantly Dravidian origin and formed the main stock of modern Indian ancestry. Analysed samples belong predominantly (98%) to an ancient Iranian hunter gatherer lineage, which is closely related to Iranian and Anatolian farmer lineages, and are linked to proto-Dravidians. According to the scientists, proto-Dravidians began to migrate and conquer other parts of India, where they partially mixed with tribal groups (mostly only on maternal side). Later, Indo-Aryan peoples arrived from Central Asia and migrated into northern India during and after the decline of the Indus Valley culture were they started to dominate the political and cultural history of India. Local Dravidians in northern India adopted Indo-Aryan languages (see elite dominance).

A recent genetic study published in the "European Journal of Human Genetics" in Nature (2019) showed that most populations of South Asia, Western Asia, Northern Africa, Europe and parts of Central Asia are closely related to each other. These mentioned groups can be clearly distinguished from most populations in East Asia or Western Africa and Africans south of the Sahara.

Another DNA and anthropologic study

A genetic and biogeographical study (Das et al. 2016) resulted in strong support for a Caucasoid origin of proto-Dravidians. According to the study these proto-Dravidians migrated into India more than 8,000 years ago from a region later known as Elam in modern day Iran. The authors suggest that this results support the Elamo-Dravidian hypothese.